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what if i told you that no matter who

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you are or where you are

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you can participate in science at nasa

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and make real world discoveries

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alongside nasa scientists

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hello i'm your host emily ferfaro and

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this is another virtual episode of nasa

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science live

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from mapping the ocean floors to

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discovering new planets outside of our

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solar system

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nasa has so many different citizen

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science projects

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where members of the public actually

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collaborate with nasa scientists to make

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amazing discoveries together

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nasa's chief scientist jim green is here

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to tell us more

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have you ever had an aha moment that

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feeling when

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everything just seems to make sense

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scientists

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have them all the time hi i'm jim green

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nasa's chief scientist and i have

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discovered

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many new things in my career and let me

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there's nothing quite like that feeling

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when you discover

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something important that no one in the

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world knows

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what if i told you that through nasa's

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citizen science program

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you too can experience that same feeling

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are you interested citizen scientists

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working with nasa have made

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many significant discoveries some of

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right from their own home for instance

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54 000 circumstellar disks have been

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found by citizen

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scientists what are they these are

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debris fields around stars in our galaxy

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where planets are being formed for the

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very first time

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what about the citizen scientists that

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18 000 mosquito breeding sites

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in nasa earth science images breeding

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mosquitoes

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there are many other discoveries going

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on in nasa's citizen science

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projects and you can get involved

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these projects are real collaborations

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between scientists

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i am sure some of you might be saying

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well i don't have a fancy degree

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or i can't discover new planets beyond

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our solar system

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and you'd be wrong you don't have to

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have a special degree or job title

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if you're curious about our universe and

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our planet earth you can get involved

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with real nasa projects

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and work alongside real scientists right

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so what are you waiting for come on and

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join us

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to get started go to science.nasa.gov

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i don't know about you but hearing about

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the discoveries made by citizen

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is so exciting if you're anything like

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a scientist so it was great to hear dr

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anyone can get involved with these

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there are so many great projects that

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today on the show we'll talk about a few

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but if you want to learn about all of

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the opportunities

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visit science.nasa.gov citizen

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science did you know that planets form

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from vast clouds of gas dust and chunks

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headquarters and citizen scientist

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detective why does nasa need help

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project fun projects and all but

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and why i started to interact with mark

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discovery like the peter pan thinks from

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hugo you helped us discover peter pan

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detective started finding objects

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it's used to characterize coral reef

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ecosystems around the world with

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today we're joined by 10 year old

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kellen homan and nasa scientist dr vade

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to tell us more about this fun project

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ben so can you tell us a little bit more

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corals in 3d so we've been traveling

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that ties into our super computer and

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you can download it and play it on your

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iphone or ipad device

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and what you're doing in that game is

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looking at our data sets that we are

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getting from around the world with these

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drones

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and helping learn about corals at the

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same time as coloring them and

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feeding data into our super computer wow

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this is such a cool idea to get people

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involved in this project

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um kellen i understand that you've been

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working

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with on this project so can you tell us

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is nemo net more

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like a game or is it like school work

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and have you learned

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science by playing the game it's kind of

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it's kind of like a game because it's

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not school work you kind of get to do

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what you want to do you can

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choose where you want to be and what and

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what you want to do they're like 2d 3d

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and then there's stuff like that that

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sounds very fun

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what kind of things have you learned

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from playing the game

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there's a lot of different types of

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coral and there are

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some key regions that have coral

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um they are

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you can classify guan the great barrier

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reef american samoa

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hawaii or puerto rico coral so that

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seems like where the most of the coral

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is probably

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wow i didn't know that so can you show

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us kind of how you

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how you interact with this app i hear

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that you are so good at classifying

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coral that you have earned the status of

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sea turtle

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um was it hard to get to that level

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yup i've been playing it for yeah a few

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months

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coral i have the types of coral on here

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i can

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of all the quarter types i have what i

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what i can classify

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and like what they look like so then

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i'll get out of that and then we have

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the 3d map

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to you can like scroll

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all the directions you can look from

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like all directions

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it sounds like you're a pro so ved how

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are citizen scientists like kellen and

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their work in this app helping us

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understand what's what's going on with

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coral reefs

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uh i mean to put it bluntly they are

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changing the world and we have mapped as

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of 2020

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around six percent of the ocean floor

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and one of the reasons why it's so

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difficult to map the ocean floor first

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is because it's difficult to see

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anything beneath ocean waves so our

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instrument helps

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fix that and reveal that environment in

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3d but the second is once you have all

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that data it really doesn't mean

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anything unless you have

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humans come in and help annotate what it

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is we're looking at is it

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sand are we looking at sea cucumbers sea

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grass

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corals and it really becomes a

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complicated machine learning problem

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so when we first created the project we

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didn't have a video game in mind we were

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purely focused on super computing

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and being able to develop the tool to

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classify these reefs

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but we learned you know that the super

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computer results and the machine

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learning

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outputs were only as good as the

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training data we have

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at that point you know we thought all

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right we have we have an untapped

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potential

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across the world in our nation as well

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with all of these students who are

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interested engaged they want to explore

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these environments

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um it's it's funny that this happened

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during the pandemic and a lot of folks

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were looking for an activity to do at

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home that would be at once educational

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and benefit science and that's when we

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we decided to launch nemo net on earth

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day this year

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and so we've we currently have around

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100 000 plus active users

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kellen is in our in our top 1 of pro

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players

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he outclassifies phd trained coral reef

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biologists

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regularly um history name is

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admiral crocodile and it's it's really

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just amazing

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how how quickly um kids in his age group

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pick up on classifying this is not an

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easy task i struggle with this

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you open the game you see a 3d coral

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which looks to you know like a loaf of

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bread to some people

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it can look like very different shapes

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kids have to learn what that is

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pass an accuracy test while painting in

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3d

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and that's how they graduate and level

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up the food chain in the video game

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and all that data then gets compared on

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our super computer we can measure its

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statistics related to other scientists

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inputs other

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uh amateur players and it's it's really

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the sweet spot we found for

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classification is roughly

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kellen's age group um and the amount of

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time that they play

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the the knowledge they have in these

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environments is really just

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extraordinary so

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yeah i'd say we could not do it without

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without kids like helen

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this is so amazing so uh kellen do you

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have any advice for

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for people watching that might want to

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get involved

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yeah i also wanna where i i actually

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have the number there have been seven

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thousand seven hundred thousand three

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hundred

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and eighty eight classifications by

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everybody who's been playing nemo net

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that's amazing and advice is definitely

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take your time and like do it one at a

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time

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and definitely look and make sure you

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know what each choral type looks like

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because they do give

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actual pictures in the game of what the

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choral types look like

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so that's that helps classify once you

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when you can see what the coral type

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looks like and then you can put that in

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to your knowledge of what so

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what we're looking for in the game

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this is so cool i am just so impressed

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but thank you both

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so much for joining us

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let's move up into the atmosphere way up

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to where the auroras dance across our

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skies

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in order to track the appearance of

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auroras across the globe

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nasa supports a citizen science project

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called aurorasaurus

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where volunteers submit reports and

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photographs

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through a mobile app and website with

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all of this data from users around the

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planet

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researchers are able to learn more about

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this mysterious

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and dazzling phenomenon i'm joined by

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nasa scientist

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dr elizabeth mcdonald and citizen

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scientist

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donna locke thank you so much for

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joining us

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hi thank you for including me

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hi thanks of course so elizabeth

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why is it an important area of research

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um to have these citizen scientists

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contribute um regarding auroras

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yeah so auroras affect our technologies

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on earth

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and in the sky on in satellites and they

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move really quickly

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and it's important um to get an

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understanding of what they're doing

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even when they're really quiet or really

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large

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and citizen scientists can really help

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with that

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amazing so donna you um are a citizen

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scientist with this project

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can you uh kind of walk us through what

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contributing

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looks like sure um

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it's uh what our source wants is

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our observations from the ground

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wherever we are so we are their boots in

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the ground eyes to the sky

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and it starts with me watching the

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forecast for the aurora

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and the solar activity uh listening to

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the chatter on

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twitter and our facebook groups and when

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the conditions are right and the sky is

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clear i head out with my camera

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and i will take pictures of the aurora

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and after that i will report

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by going online to aurorasaurus or

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on their their app but we would

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uh give them our observations and upload

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a photo of what we saw on the ground

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wow and elizabeth how does that help you

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with your research

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well knowing um exactly what time it was

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and where the person was when they saw

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the aurora

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allows us to put all of those different

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images together

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along with our traditional observations

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and

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in more depth what kind of discoveries

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have citizen scientists made

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with this project so

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one big one is something called steve

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which is actually

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an aurora that can be seen um further

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away from the poles than the usual

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aurora so overhead over

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southern canada and the northern u.s and

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it's very unusual it kind of looks like

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an airplane

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condensation trail but with a photograph

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you can pick up these amazing colors as

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well

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and by studying it further with

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satellite data and

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other data from the ground we've

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discovered it's it's really like a

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flow driven aurora it's an east to west

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flow

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that is lighting up the sky and doing

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some amazing

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kind of new unusual aurora

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auroral activity that's still being

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studied now

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wow that is amazing so i've only seen

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aurora's in

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in videos and images what is it like to

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to see it firsthand

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my latitude in southern manitoba

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it's it just looks like a white light

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maybe with a green tint to it

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when it's active then sometimes i can

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see the pink fringe along the bottom

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and sometimes i can also see the red

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that goes high above

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but uh most of the time it's only about

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30 degrees above the horizon where i

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am once in a while it will go overhead

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and

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if we hit a get to a substorm then it

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will start

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dancing for about 30 seconds to about 20

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minutes and that's the very

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exciting part that we want to photograph

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and after that

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is a very subtle um

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pulsating yeah pulsating um aurora

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that is difficult to actually see with

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the eyes but the camera can really

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capture it beautifully

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that is just amazing and so we only have

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a couple seconds left but could you

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how do you have a couple pieces of

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advice for people that want to get

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involved

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i would say please join us because it's

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it's a very exciting thing to be

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involved with to be able to report

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uh and share what i see

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i'm not a scientist i don't have a great

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camera i don't uh

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i'm not a professional but i can be

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involved in something that's really

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important

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and right now in this time of social

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distancing we're looking for something

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to do outside

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and we can do this on our own we don't

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need to worry about social distancing

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and we can link arms with everyone

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across the globe

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to be a part of something very exciting

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like this

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yeah virtually we can get together and

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also it's really a great bridge between

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the

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it spurs a lot of great

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communication and um questions

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about what we're seeing so yeah we

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encourage people to join us

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be patient the sun we have to wait for

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the sun

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and the sky to be clear and that can

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take a while but

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you can join our community and learn

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more in the meantime

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so everyone is welcome awesome

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if you're interested in astronomy and

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looking to the sky this next project

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might be for you

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the international astronomical search

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collaboration

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also known as isaac is a program that

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allows citizen scientists

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all around the world to analyze nasa's

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high quality data

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of near-earth objects things like

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asteroids and comets

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with this data volunteers are able to

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make discoveries of new asteroids in our

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solar system

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and near earth i'm joined by isaac

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founder dr patrick miller

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and citizen scientist ludwig aldolfo

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fernandez

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thank you both for joining us thank you

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so patrick this sounds like an exciting

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project could you tell us more

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about it yes uh we uh we started this

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project

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in uh in in 2006 i think we had

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like five teams participating now we've

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got over

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3000 teams from 80 countries around the

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world to participate

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uh we provide images from large

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telescopes uh at the university of

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hawaii

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uh the pan stars uh sky survey and also

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the university of arizona the catalina

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sky survey

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uh we take these images we process them

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and then send them out to teams of

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citizen scientists around the world

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and their job is to look through these

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these images

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and find discoveries of of asteroids

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wow this is really important work um so

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ludwing you've been involved with this

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project

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um can you tell us how how you

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participate and what sort of skills

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well uh well i managed the campaign for

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bolivia it's named

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all bolivian as the research campaign

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this campaign is pretty neo and we are

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working with isaac since 2018

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and to this day more than one thousand

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students participated in the campaign

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there isn't like a list of skills to

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participate but

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the student needs to meet some

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requirements such as having a computer

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and have an internet connection

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sometimes the school is in charge of

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that well but the most important

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is to have the desire to learn and to

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make to contribute

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to observation of asteroids wow okay so

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what kind of

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observations and discoveries have you

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well the living campaign we have made

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more than 400 uh

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probably preliminar asteroids and seven

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provisional asteroids

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so as bolivian campaign we also

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participated in special campaigns that

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are competitive

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among the best 10 teams of the world

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amazing

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so uh dr miller how did does the work of

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citizen scientists help with your

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the the citizen scientists are are

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finding

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objects that are actually not reported

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by the large sky surveys

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their citizen scientists are able to

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look at these images and see deeper

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into the images than the automated

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detection utilities conducted either by

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pan stars or catalina so

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those are important observations because

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they're finding things that are

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that are missed in the original in the

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original data

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wow that is quite incredible what an

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important project and it's very cool

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that citizen scientists can help with

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this

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um so what advice do both of you have

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for other people that want to get

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well from isaac's point of view if you'd

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like to participate

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you're welcome to come to our website

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and we have a registration form and uh

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the staff and i will be happy to work

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with you

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uh it takes a day or two once you uh

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send in your interests

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uh and then we'll get you set up and

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participating before you know it

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and it's free yeah

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for me is that don't be afraid to apply

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it's a great opportunity to make

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important discoveries in asteroids so

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there is a great

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experience it's free and it's open for

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everyone

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amazing great advice thank you both so

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much for the work that you're doing and

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for being with us here today

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so today we have explored our oceans our

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skies and planets that are far

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far away and we've learned that you too

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can be a scientist from your very own

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home let's see how the kids in this next

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video

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have been contributing to nasa research

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nasa has scientists posted all over the

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world studying earth's frozen regions

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we've got people exploring ice sheets

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glaciers

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permafrost sea ice snow and even ice on

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other planets

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but even our top scientists need a

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do you like going outside to do science

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yeah why

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because it's fun yeah what's your

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favorite part

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we're following the micro explorers that

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are helping nasa collect data from their

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own backyard

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why because it's very rounded

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here's the idea students construct a

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frost tube that gets put into a hole in

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undisturbed and uncompacted soil

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during the cold months students will

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measure the depth at which water in the

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frost tube freezes

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indicating that the surrounding soil has

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frozen

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this is one of many citizen science

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projects facilitated by globe

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the global learning and observations to

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benefit the environment program

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how far down is the ice

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so is there still liquid in there

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it's a worldwide program that so far has

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collected over 130 million measurements

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from more than 10 million students in

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113 countries

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are you scientists these measurements

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are added to a massive worldwide

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database

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that's free and open to the public

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globe connects my students with the rest

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of the world

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through science and looking at climate

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change and how it's affecting the future

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globe teachers like terry are

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transforming the way kids see science

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and how they'll respond to changes in

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their future environment

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thank you all for joining us today to

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learn about citizen science

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if you want to become a citizen

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scientist yourself visit

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science.nasa.gov citizen science and

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explore all of the projects that need

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you

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there's science that can be done by

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anyone anywhere

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all across the globe with just a cell

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phone or a laptop

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you can also follow do nasa science on

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twitter

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and facebook to stay informed of the

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latest updates

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and discoveries thank you so much for